Wish or Miracle
Say, I wonder if Wish or Miracle would be sufficient to get someone out of the 'Garden. I'll have to look at my book when I get a chance.--------------"Haste makes waste, so I seldom hurry. But if a...
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I'd allow a Wish spell to get a single PC out. I don't see why it shouldn't.------------------First Troll, ReverendLords' Paladin of CrwickCastle & Crusade Society
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Quote:I'd allow a Wish spell to get a single PC out. I don't see why it shouldn't.The Blood Governor has wish in his spellbook, and still he is unable to escape.
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Good for him. He's not a PC.The PCs aren't cursed, doomed, undead, or otherwise bound to the location simply by being there... they're visitors, not entities of the place.PCs in Ravenloft can teleport...
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As far as I remember, the containment ended up working against all souls... including living who weren't clerics in good standing with their deities. So, I can't say that your idea holds there...
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Heh, well, then it's a good thing I have a descriptor called [Soul-Affecting] to know what this kind of stuff affects..... besides which, in my games its quite possible to not be undead, but, have no...
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Quote:Unless the field definitely states Wish and Miracle cannot work to get a character out... it works. From the text: ". . . the complex matrix of warding magic placed upon the site is so powerful...
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At least wording a wish to be a cleric for x amount of time so you can act as a cleric to get through the barrier, how about a rogue using their use magic device to fake being a cleric to get through?
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Treebore, I think you're looking at it from the wrong direction.For souls of any kind, Egress from the bonegarden is impossible. Period. End of discussion.The whole 'place your hand upon the field and...
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I didn't remember it saying that the god directly answered, I interpreted it as being more like activating an item or meeting an item requirement, something that can be fooled. A wish directly asking...
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No, you can't wish yourself into a cleric to get out, and here's why:From the text: ". . . all that is required is for a cleric in good standing with his deity to place a hand upon the gate or wall...
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I can buy that for the Blood Governor, but, for example, if they were a mage played like Byrni was, I would let such a wish work for him. This is because Byrni was played like a cleric who was a mage,...
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Quote:So I guess the whole issue boils down to "its the DM's call". Certainly true, in this as in all other matters. The DM's job is to make sure the player's have fun. Whatever is going to increase...
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If nothing else I hope this thread has motivated you to do so. As you can see I do not only consider rule mechanics when I DM, but the spirit of the game as well as character and campaign histories....
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If someone were clever... and if you're in the Bonegarden long enough, have your character just take a level of cleric. After some of the crap you have to deal with, someone's bound to turn to dieties...
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Quote:have your character just take a level of clericI'm not sure how this works, I'll admit. Can someone just decide to become a cleric, sans training and theological instruction? If so, then I...
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It depends on the campaign. Some people let the players multi-task freely, so long as there's a valid reason for it (like me), others are more strict. Personally, multi-classing seems to create a...
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To me, Miracle is divine assistance, since that's what it's all about... requesting the intercession of a god to do something. Meanwhile, Wish is mortal magic.--------------"Haste makes waste, so I...
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Quote:To me, Miracle is divine assistance, since that's what it's all about... requesting the intercession of a god to do something. Meanwhile, Wish is mortal magic. True enough. However, to cast...
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What if a wizard used Contact Other Plane to contact an Outer Plane entity (i.e., a god) and beg a favor in exchange for one of greater magnitude in return?
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I don't believe contact other plane would work, as it says in the SRD concerning this spell, "[the gods] resent such contact and give only brief answers to your questions." So, this spell is used only...
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